Why does he start thinking about Clarisse?
Why do you think he imagines that he would end up in a barn while he is floating down the river? Why not a friendly city, or a village of some sort?
Why do you think the search went in the opposite direction?
Why do you think they choose to blow the city up?
Zach H-He started thinking of Clarisse because she was a small bit of happiness in Montag's old life. She was a symbol of everything good and I think the memory of Clarisse will help Montag get threw his new life.
Adam- It's the country. There's more likely to be a barn than a town. Also, I think he was imagining getting away from the city and escaping to a friendly place.
Zach-He starts thinking about Clarisse because he realizes how cool she was as a person and he misses her and he starts thinking about the burning books and Clarisse was the one who talked him almost out of being a fireman and burning books so that way I think he thinks of her because she is almost why he is where he is now.
Adam- i think because like there is only really cities so if he goes out of one itll be a while until he finds another city,
Zach H- I think that he starts thinking about Clarisse because it helps him get through things and try to do what she would do.
Was the destruction of the city a good thing so they can have a new beginning and live peacefully?
What do you think they mean when they are talking about new beginnings?
logane2013 said...Why do you think the search went in the opposite direction?It went the other way because they lost the scent and track of him and could not find him, so they picked a random guy to get captured.
AdamWhy do you think he imagines that he would end up in a barn while he is floating down the river? Why not a friendly city, or a village of some sort?i think he thinks about a barn because he is tired of a city life and wants to be alone where really no one can tell him what to do.
Logan E-The search went in the other way to keep the people interested into what they were watching. It was like a show for them. The entire city was watching this chase, and they didn't want to just end it when they couldn't find Guy. So they faked the rest of the search and instead took a random person out on a walk and killed him instead. It was for the amusement of the city.
Do you think that Montag will live a Granger type lifestyle after the book?
Zach HI think he starts thinking about her because he loved her and it was his only wife. I think he thought he was going to die so he just thought of what was most important to him and that was her.
What does the river symbolize to Montag?Nick-I think that they decided to blow up the city because they had no choice.
LoganE-The search went in the opposite direction because people don't want to watch a search that takes all night because it would have taken them hours and hours. They were just putting a show on for the viewers and wanted to keep the public happy even if it means killing an innocent person.
Do you believe Montag is an ignorant man playing a specific role in history or a hero? Explain your thinking.
Logan-I think maybe the reason why the search went the wrong way was because they really didn't want to catch him maybe there is a reason that they want him to stay alive for some reason.
Do you think guy will be happy and start over after the book?
If all of the Professors have a book in their head then what will Montag be able to put forward in order to help them rebuild the library and city?
Do you think that all the other cities will be as strict on books as his former city?
Zach B-What do you think they mean when they are talking about new beginnings?-I think by new beginnings, they mean a new life, new country, new society.
Nick-Do you think guy will be happy and start over after the book? Yes, I think that he will try to start over and make a new happier life.
Is Montag's story a hero's journey?
Zach - They have ways to help him memorize more books and pass the information on to other generations. They have all memorized some books so eventually they can rebuild society.
Nickc-I don't think hes completely happy because of what happened to Clarisse, Faber, and Mildred, but is also relieved that now no one is after him.
Nick-I do think that Guy will start over after the book because that is all he has left in his life he needs something to keep him going.
NickI think that Guy now knows that there is good in the world and being with all of these men that agree the society needs to change and books should not be outlawed.
Why did Granger think that one day there will be another "dark age" that they will have to go through all over again?
Zach B-He said he DID have a book in his head though. The Book of Ecclesiastes. So he could contribute in a way, such as the others could with having a book memorized in their head.
NickDo you think guy will be happy and start over after the book? I think Guy will find happiness living in a world with no laws against having books and nobody looking for him. I also think that Mildred was a big reason for his unhappiness, so escaping her may also make his life better.
JD- I do think it is because eventually he answered the heroes call to heroism and took that step forward to figure out whats going on in the world.
JD-Is Montag's story a hero's journey?I think that Montag has some of the elements that makes him a hero and i think that he has enough of the traits to make him a hero.
NickDo you think guy will be happy and start over after the booki think Guy will start a new life and be happy
JD- I think that in some way that Montag has a hero's journey in his life because of all the things he has been through.
Why does this book never speak of parenting? Why are there no children?
What happened to Faber?
Do you believe Montag is an ignorant man playing a specific role in history or a hero? Explain your thinking. Responding to my own question I believe Montag could be described as both a chess piece in the game of society but also as a hero. A chess piece because information has been pumping through him since the start of the book and you never see the thoughts of his own. Clarisse and Faber tell him that the society he lives in is all wrong. Corruption wreaks from the city and as soon as he listens he responds, gradually. Montag could also be considered a hero because of his acts of courage and bravery. Montag rebels against his society who he believes is as bad as the devil. With the help of Faber, Montag attempts to spread the word of books and free his city of the chains of censorship.
Why does Guy say on page 155 "It's strange. I don't miss her." Why doesn't he miss her?
Yanni I think that granger has been through on dark age and he fleas that it is not over and another is coming.
Nick-Do you think guy will be happy and start over after the book? Yes I think guy wants to make a change in his life, and stop making such a big deal about the books. I think he will try to start over so he will have a much happier life.
Adam-Why does this book never speak of parenting? Why are there no children? In one short part of the book it talks about children when Montag is talking to clarisse about her going to school. And clarisse is a teen.
Nick-I think that he will become happier and he may start over and try to find someone else to spend his life with but I don't know if he will ever be totally sane. He will probably never forget what had happened just a little bit before he ran away.
AdamhThere actually were children in the book such as Clarisse who was a 17 year old girl or even the kids driving the beetle chasing Momtag in the alley. THere was n o parenting, but there were kids
Thomas-Do you think that Montag will live a Granger type lifestyle after the book? I think Montag will live like Granger after the book because his first friend after being rejected other than faber is Granger. Where else is Montag going to go though. I think Montag will read books and I think his eyes are open to see whats happening in the world now.
John N-Why does Guy say on page 155 "It's strange. I don't miss her." Why doesn't he miss her?-I think he doesn't miss her because he feels that she betrayed him. Instead of helping him with his problem with the books, she called him in and got his house burned down.
John N said... Why does Guy say on page 155 "It's strange. I don't miss her." Why doesn't he miss her?* I think Montag says that because he's gotten over her, and he knows that whatever he does she won't come back.
David- I believe Montag is playing a major role in history because he lead a revolt against all of society. It's like all of the 3rd world countries today because they are leading rebellions against their nation and government because they don't like what is going on. Montag didn't have a lot of support though so his story will be more impressive in their history. The only problem is that maybe no one will hear his story and it might just get thought of a betrayal of the society.
John-Why does Guy say on page 155 "It's strange. I don't miss her." Why doesn't he miss her? It never seemed that montag loved her and she also just ruined Montag and started this whole chase.
Yanni-While I agree with you, I still think that Montag WILL keep on about the books. Books are his life now. He escaped death multiple times, killed his friends, and broke other numerous laws, just to keep some books alive. He has done all this, there is no way he will just "stop making such a big deal about the books."
Adam- I think they don't mention any children because this ype of society think they are to rebellious and curious so they are probably put in a facility until they grow up and get brain washed about the laws.
JD-I think we don't know enough about Montag's past to determine if he is a hero. However he does have a mentor (Faber), he crosses the threshold (reading books) and he defeats the dragon (Beatty.)
Adam - Why does this book never speak of parenting? Why are there no children? My Response-This book speaks of parenting when Mildred invites her friends over to participate in the parlor within the Montag residence. There are children but they are not in a part of the story. This passage here explains, "...said Mrs. Bowles I've had two children by Caesarian section. No use going through all that agony for a baby. The world must reproduce... I put up with them when they come home three days a month... you heave them into the 'parlor' and turn the switch. It's like washing clothes..." (Bradbury 96). No one cares for the children or even feels for them, that doesn't mean they necessarily do not exist.
DO you think that Faber has been down this exact same road because he knows about the group of guys by the railroad track?
Adam--I don't think people have the patience to have kids or even take care of them. It's an unnessesary burden when society has gone down the tube.
Nick-Do you think guy will be happy and start over after the book? I think guy will start over because he saw the truth and understands whats happening with the world. I don't know if he will be as happy because everything was done for him and now everything isn't. His life was easy before he got involved with the books.
Fire in this book started out for Montag as a pleasure but in the end he felt the fire as warmth or hurtful to people. Montag has changed a lot over this book and i think he will have a nice new start to his new life.
Adam-i dont think they talk about children in the book because they dont like them. and they feel like they are a burden so maybe they are in school learning
Zach-I think that Faber was taken by the government and was either executed or the are just keeping him in custody so that he doesn't start getting people interested in books and that the people listen to the government.
John N-Why does Guy say on page 155 "It's strange. I don't miss her." Why doesn't he miss her?Guy doesn't miss her because she died for the greater good. For books and freedom. I also think that guy is over her death and accepts the fact. Guy is seeing like she did.
Adam- I do agree that he won't just stop with all the books, but I think he finally realizes that he is not going to make much more of a change, and that he is kind of going to just settle down with books, because they are ruining his life.
Zach h-I think Faber has been through the same thing because all the guys in the tracks were doctors, writers, and loved books. Faber also loves books and had nowhere to go besides in the country. It seems as if they are obsessed with books because they actually tried to microfilm the text which is over the top.
zach- I think faber has been there before but he decided to go back because he was afraid and i feel he wanted to go back because he still believed in society. He wanted to go help the people and do all he can
Why does Granger compare mankind to the phoenix?
Zach Faber escaped into the hills like Montag did. it said on page 159 "..Faber was out: there in the deep valleys of the country the 5am bus..."
Zach-Faber said he would leave very quickly. I am quite sure that he escaped as well, and that Montag and Faber will meet up again. Right after Montag left Faber's house, the dog went to the house, but they concealed the trail well enough for it to lose track at the house. So Faber was in the clear, and could have simply enough walked away or driven off, as he had promised to Montag he would do.
Adam I think the reason there are no children is because the government is somewhat threatened by the younger generation because they have new ideas and aren't as easy to "brain wash" because they are so stubborn and pose more of a threat than the people that are already being controlled. I also do no think that it would be effective to have parenting because the kids would not agree with what is going on and either rebel against there parents or run away and create even more chaos. I think the government realized this and said that no one is aloud to have kids and the people that were aloud to have kids were watched very closely. The governments worst nightmare at the time was someone like Clarisse who was so innocent that she changed the way people thought and ended up changing the world they lived in.
Tyler D-I agree with you that we don't know enough about his past to determine if he is a true hero, but I think he was in a way born out of a disaster. The society is somewhat of a disaster and Clarisse almost gave him new life and caused him to view life in a new way.
Zach H- I think that Faber has not been down the same road but before they banned books he knew those people and they decided to find somewhere safe to talk about books.
Yanni-That makes sense as well. He won't be crazy about keeping every one he sees, but he definitely won't lose any care and love for them. They did ruin his life, but they also renewed it. In a way, they fixed his life.
JD-Do you think that all the other cities will be as strict on books as his former city? I would imagine that other cities would be as strict on books as his former city because the government enforced the rule and if one firefighter was like that in this city why wouldn't there be more like Beatty in other cities. I think the cities force the rule and burn houses like this city.
Was the destruction of the city a good thing so they can have a new beginning and live peacefully?-Yes. Because the city blew up, the only people who might have survived are Montag and the other outcasts. These people are the ones who will build the new city based on what they have learned about the last one.What do you think they mean when they are talking about new beginnings?-The new begging is the new city they are going to build.Why did Granger think that one day there will be another "dark age" that they will have to go through all over again?-The dark age is the city that was blown up. The cycle started with a city that gained power and became ignorant about things around them and eventually crashed and burned because of it.A question I would have asked is How does the Phoenix symbolize the town?I think the phoenix symbolizes the town because it follows the Phoenix's lifespan. The Phoenix started out young are eager to learn and gain power through out its life. But as the Phoenix gained more and more power, the more ignorant he becomes and in return the weaker he becomes. But when the Phoenix finally dies, a new wiser Phoenix emerges from its ashes. This is like the city because the new city will consists of people that lived in the old city that learned from there mistakes.